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Friday, August 26, 2011

 

Michelle Obama accused of spending $10,000,000 of public money on vacations

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2029615/Michelle-Obama-accused-spending-10m-public-money-vacations.html


Comments:
She deserves it, she is the best.
Bless her sweet heart.
Strange how no Republicans complained when Bush spent 600 billion to oust Saddam, and upwards fo 2 trillion+ to occupy it while the Iraqis rebuilt their country, instead of helping our country first. Especially when it was the U.S. in the first place who gave chemical weapons to Saddam. What a joke. The whole world turned a blind eye in the 80s when he was gassing his own people. Iraq was fighting the war with iran for us, so we turned a blind eye, but when it was advantageous to Bush Jr., Saddam is a threat to the world all of a sudden.

You wanna talk about wasting tax payer money?


If only Michelle Obama had made good use of that money - like by staying there, instead of returning from those vacations!

Joker, our Democratic Congress declared war on Saddam,not once but twice.
C'mon Michelle is so inspirational, if she wanted to attack Canada, Libya, Cuba I would be right there backing her up!   If she wanted to spend another trillion no biggie.
Maybe she can visit the space station, that should rack up some big bucks.
Meh. Gov't makes rounding errors bigger than $10 million and "misplaces" much more.
Sully, no they didn't. First, the president doesn't need congress to start a war under the constitution. Second, Congress hasn't decalred a war since 1941. Bush and his shadow govt cronies planned that bs from the start with the WMD nonsense that he kept repeating over and over like a 12 million times. it was the Untited nations Security Council that authorized the war. The U.N. must also be done away with.
Joker, I agree the un has got to go, I don't think Bush is the ring leader of the puppet masters, these men are multi-billionaires and don't care about humans or any country in particular.
Joker, oh, yes, congress did vote for war, not once but twice. Even Hilliary voted for war. Don't change history because it doesn't fit your prejudices.
@ gasmeterguy, If you read what Sully wrote, she said "Declared". Totally different. Again, Congress hasn't decalered a war on any nation since 1941.
Also, Congress only voted for the war because of misinformation by Bush and his cronies saying they knew for sure there was WMDs, which was totally bogus.
When's the last time you read the Constitution, Joker? From Article 1, Section 8 of the Constitution of The US, (the section on The Powers of Congress) (Congress has the power) -

"To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;

To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;

To provide and maintain a Navy;

To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;

To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;

To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;"

I mean, really only the first sentence was necessary. Just because The President was designated Commander in Chief, that was never meant as a free pass to use the military as he pleases.
Although I agree that the we shouldn't have invaded Iraq, and we should leave the UN, there's no constitutional argument about the President's War Powers - it's that we just outright ignore the Constiution.

The Authorization of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution of 1991 was passed by the 102nd Congress, in which both houses of Congress were controlled by Democrats. "Joint Resolution to Authorize the Use of United States Armed Forces Against Iraq" of 2002 was passed by the 107th, in which the Senate was split and the House under control of the Republican Party.

Seems much less partisan the more you look at it, especially considering the escalating of warfare and airstrikes the current administration has gone through with in Yemen, Libya, Pakistan and Afghanistan.
I wish folks here would read what I write before complaining. I said the president doesn't NEED congress to start a war.
Forgot to write, the president has the power to decalre war If the president feels the country is under attack, which it wasn't at that time. So Mr. Bush's war was illegal, what else is new?
Well the President has the authority to respond to any imminent and immediate threats, not declare war.

Bush's War - however misguided - wasn't illegal, because Congress authorized it in 2002.

But I suppose if you say that the President doesn't need congress to take the country to war under the Constitution, if you say so, regardless of what the Constitution says.

I mean, in practice, we often ignore it, it's unacceptable that the commonly held belief is what you said, even though the Constitution says the exact opposite.
Maybe you should do your homework Boney the 19 year old know it all. How did Harry Truman bypass congress to go to war with Korea?...HuH?

It was through resolution hr77 through the United nations security council that we went to war. At any rate, I already wrote 3 times that Congress hasn't declared war with any nation since 1941. How many times do I have to write this? If that's true, then HOW THE EFF DID CONGRESS DECLARE WAR WITH IRAQ?......GOT IT?...HOLY COW!!!
Congress authorized military action - didn't declare war.

That's why I said in practice we ignore it, I study history all of the time. You wrote that within the Constitution, the President has authority to bring the country to war, which is untrue - the Constitution clearly says the opposite, even if we've ignored that for a very long time, since World War II, really.
Anyway the UN has just allowed our executive branch to ignore it's constitutional limits, but that's a whole other subject.
BTW Joker your ability to make an argument out of my age shows everyone how immature you are. Obviously age doesn't correlate with maturity all of the time, because whenever I've taken issue on a statement you've made, and given examples, you've called out my age, and reacted in an incredibly immature manner.

EG: You said that Sully was wrong in her assertion that the Congress' that declared War were controlled by the Democrats, I looked up the demographics those two congress' and one WAS controlled by democrats, one was split in the Senate, and the house was Republican.

So instead of clearing yourself up, which actually would have been easy, because 32 percent of the Democrats in those congresses voted against War, you cited my age and called me a know it all.

Ok buddy, that's some good old fashioned life experience working for you. How about you stop acting so rude, if you post something that's incorrect, like the Constitutional limits on War Power, somebody is going to call it out - you shouldn't react in a manner than makes you look like a as immature as a child.
Maybe you need to take English classes Boney. There's a difference between vote, and declare. I just got done telling you Truman did it with Korea. You don't read what I write.
And I did clear it up. Congress was duped into believing there were WMDs when it was Bullschmidt. Bush, cheney and all the other crooksed liars kept repeating it over and over. Then after it was proven there were no WMDs, they were left with their thumbs up their asses.

You have a lot to learn...
Congress would HAVE to vote to declare war, although I completely agree with you about the whole Iraq war deal, from the WMDs, to the concept of going to War with a country that presented no threat to us.

But I also disagree with how this current administration has handled itself. This administration has used our military without seeking congressional approval, and has ramped up strikes in Yemen and Pakistan with little to no discussion.

As far as my paragraph where I wrote about Sully's assertion - it was a typo, I meant that one of the two Congress' that authorized military action against Iraq was controlled by the Democratic Party. The other had a split Senate.

I understand what Truman did with Korea, it was unconstitutional. I just finished saying that when UN Resolutions are used as precedence for using the US Military, that that's a way for the Executive Branch to ignore it's Constitutional limits, and usurp that power from Congress.

Obviously sir, you also have a lot to learn....
Debating with you is impossible. You twist my words around to save face. I know more in my left toe than you will ever know. Know it alls...geesh..
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