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Looks like the AMERICAN PEOPLE will be victorious!

I'm not quite ready to break out the champagne, but it's close!  Everyone who has been fighting the socialist health care plan that the Democrats have been trying to ram through Congress should be mighty proud of thier vigilance in seeing that it doesn't happen without a fight.

It's kind of annoying that all the media keeps calling it GOP or Republican pressure, when the pressure has really been from everyday, normal Joe Citizen, and the political parties have nothing to do with it.  (Neither do the insurance companies for that matter -- it's grass-roots American anger and disgust.)  But I won't let my annoyance with the media stand in the way of my satisfaction at seeing socialism kept at bay for the moment.

White House appears ready to drop 'public option'

By PHILIP ELLIOTT, Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON — Bowing to Republican pressure and an uneasy public, President Barack Obama'sadministration signaled Sunday it is ready to abandon the idea ofgiving Americans the option of government-run insurance as part of a new health care system.

Facingmounting opposition to the overhaul, administration officials left openthe chance for a compromise with Republicans that would include healthinsurance cooperatives instead of a government-run plan. Such aconcession probably would enrage Obama's liberal supporters but coulddeliver a much-needed victory on a top domestic priority opposed by GOPlawmakers.

Officials from both politicalparties reached across the aisle in an effort to find compromises onproposals they left behind when they returned to their districts for anAugust recess. Obama had wanted the government to run a healthinsurance organization to help cover the nation's almost 50 millionuninsured, but didn't include it as one of his core principles ofreform.

Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius said that government alternative to private health insuranceis "not the essential element" of the administration's health careoverhaul. The White House would be open to co-ops, she said, a signthat Democrats want a compromise so they can declare a victory.

Under a proposal by Sen. Kent Conrad,D-N.D., consumer-owned nonprofit cooperatives would sell insurance incompetition with private industry, not unlike the way electric andagriculture co-ops operate, especially in rural states such as his own.

With$3 billion to $4 billion in initial support from the government, theco-ops would operate under a national structure with state affiliates,but independent of the government. They would be required to maintainthe type of financial reserves that private companies are required tokeep in case of unexpectedly high claims.

"Ithink there will be a competitor to private insurers," Sebelius said."That's really the essential part, is you don't turn over the whole newmarketplace to private insurance companies and trust them to do the right thing."

Obama's spokesman refused to say a public option was a make-or-break choice.

"WhatI am saying is the bottom line for this for the president is, what wehave to have is choice and competition in the insurance market," WhiteHouse press secretary Robert Gibbs said Sunday.

A day before, Obama appeared to hedge his bets.

"All I'm saying is, though, that the public option, whether we have it or we don't have it, is not the entirety of health care reform," Obama said at a town hall meeting in Grand Junction, Colo. "This is just one sliver of it, one aspect of it."

It's hardly the same rhetoric Obama employed during a constant, personal campaign for legislation.

"Iam pleased by the progress we're making on health care reform and stillbelieve, as I've said before, that one of the best ways to bring downcosts, provide more choices and assure quality is a public option thatwill force the insurance companies to compete and keep them honest,"Obama said in July.

Lawmakers have discussed the co-op model for months although the Democratic leadership and the White House have said they prefer a government-run option.

Conrad,chairman of the Senate Budget Committee, called the argument for agovernment-run public plan little more than a "wasted effort." He addedthere are enough votes in the Senate for a cooperative plan.

"It'snot government-run and government-controlled," he said. "It'smembership-run and membership-controlled. But it does provide anonprofit competitor for the for-profit insurance companies, and that'swhy it has appeal on both sides."

Sen. Richard Shelby,R-Ala., said Obama's team is making a political calculation andembracing the co-op alternative as "a step away from the governmenttakeover of the health care system" that the GOP has pummeled.

"Idon't know if it will do everything people want, but we ought to lookat it. I think it's a far cry from the original proposals," he said.

Republicans say a public option would have unfair advantagesthat would drive private insurers out of business. Critics say co-opswould not be genuine public options for health insurance.

Rep. Eddie Bernice Johnson,D-Texas, said it would be difficult to pass any legislation through theDemocratic-controlled Congress without the promised public plan.

"We'll have the same number of people uninsured," she said. "Ifthe insurance companies wanted to insure these people now, they'd beinsured."

Rep. Tom Price,R-Ga., said the Democrats' option would force individuals from theirprivate plans to a government-run plan as some employers may choose notto provide health insurance.

"Tens of millions of individuals would be moved from theirpersonal, private insurance to the government-run program. We simplydon't think that's acceptable," he said.

A shift to a cooperative plan would certainly give some coverto fiscally conservative Blue Dog Democrats who are hardly cheering forthe government-run plan.

"The reality is that it takes 60 percent to get this done inthe Senate. It's probably going to have to be bipartisan in the Senate,which I think it should be," said Rep. Mike Ross, D-Ark., who added that the proposals still need changes before he can support them.

Obama, writing in Sunday's New York Times, said political maneuvers should be excluded from the debate.

"In the coming weeks, the cynics and the naysayers will continue toexploit fear and concerns for political gain," he wrote. "But for allthe scare tactics out there, what's truly scary — truly risky — is the prospect of doing nothing."

Congress' proposals, however, seemed likely to strike end-of-lifecounseling sessions. Former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin has called thesession "death panels," a label that has drawn rebuke from her fellowRepublicans as well as Democrats.

Sen. Orrin Hatch,R-Utah, declined to criticize Palin's comments and said Obama wants tocreate a government-run panel to advise what types of care would beavailable to citizens.

"In all honesty, I don't want a bunch of nameless, facelessbureaucrats setting health care for my aged citizens in Utah," Hatchsaid.

Sebelius said the end-of-life proposal was likely to be dropped from the final bill.

"We wanted to make sure doctors were reimbursed for that veryimportant consultation if family members chose to make it, and insteadit's been turned into this scare tactic and probably will be off the table," she said.

Sebelius spoke on CNN's "State of the Union" and ABC's "This Week." Gibbs appeared on CBS' "Face the Nation." Conrad and Shelby appeared on "Fox News Sunday." Johnson, Price and Ross spoke with "State of the Union." Hatch was interviewed on "This Week."


  • It ain't over till the fat and healthy (insured) lady sings. Any bill no matter how many pages long still needs to be thoroughly scrutinized. Power to the people right on!

    By jarasan, at 9:29 PM

  • By the way, there is something un-nerving about that Kathleen Sebelius when she speaks. I can't quite put my finger on it but I think it is kinda like she swallowed a canary or something, you know, like guilt ridden or not totally comfortable with what she is saying. Curious to say the least, could it be medication? a hidden ear piece telling her what to say? ..........................hmmmmm.

    By jarasan, at 9:37 PM

  • I agree, which is why I'm cautiously optimistic. You know it's never that easy - there's always something lurking that has yet to be discovered. But at the very least is shows that the people still have power when they are motivated against oppressive forces.

    By Todd, at 9:58 PM

  • It's very good news. 75% of Americans are satisfied with their current health insurance. Changes are needed, but we don't have to reinvent the wheel.

    By Rick G, at 10:09 PM

  • I agree Rick! The good news is that they will probably be looking at some of the Republican ideas, including independent insrance buying groups, which will be owned and controlled by the members, not by the government. It allows small businesses to team up into a bigger buying group in order to get affordable insurance rates, like the big companies do. I can't wait!!

    By Todd, at 10:42 PM

  • Oh wanderful..let's open up another candy store that the impoverished citizens can't buy into because they can't afford it. Those that are uninsured will remain uninsured, but who cares. I hope non of you become home-less, without a job, without health insurance and get sick enough that you need medical treatment.
    My husband was just layed off from his job this past Friday. He is a diabetic and has been treated for several other medical problems. Thank God I carry the health insurance or we would be hell out of luck.
    And by the way, we council people everyday about their choiice to make those end of life decisions. It's called Advance Directives. Everyone who enters the hospital is asked if they have A.D. if not and if they want to know more about it a booklet with the actual forms are given to the patient or responsible relative.
    I wish you all health and wealth.

    By Litebets27, at 11:26 PM

  • Great news, also may be a false flag for something else they're trying to ram down our throats. We need to keep the heat turned up, keep abreast as to what hidden scheme they're lining up next such as cap & trade. Keep emailing, keep calling .... do it several times .... wear them out. If they can't take the heat they can resign before we vote them out.

    By konane, at 11:32 PM

  • They are looking at coalition health care reform now something people may accept. Co op health care.

    By four4me, at 12:11 AM

  • Litebets27, It sounds like the system worked exactly as intended in your case. Your health insurance is covering your husband, so you both have health insurance even though he was laid off.

    If you read up on the measures the Republicans are putting forward, they solve the situation for everyone, not just status-quo. If the media reported fairly, you would know that fact, but because the media is only invested in seeing Obama succeed at the expense of the Republicans, they refuse to report on it.

    The government-owned (socialist) health plan would not solve the problem for your husband, it would only make it worse, because he would not have quick access to the treatments he needs. He would be in the long line of people waiting for treatment. And if some government guy thought it was not worth the expense of keeping him alive, they would refuse treatment.

    Socialist medicine is bad. Improving the current system is good.

    By Todd, at 12:12 AM

  • @Litebets: Here's a good article for you. It shows what we would have on a much grander scale if socialist heaslth care was instituted here.

    It is the current state of affairs in the Canadian health system, which is a lot worse off than what people are told. A top official says the system is imploding. It's right in the article.

    By Todd, at 12:16 AM

  • In my opinion, all they had to do was fix all the problems with Medicare and not worry about creating a completely new healthcare plan.

    By CARBOB, at 12:42 PM

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