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Pope deals crushing blow to global warming 'scare mongers'

 Pope Benedict XVI has launched a surprise attack on climate change prophets of doom, warning them that any solutions to global warming must be based on firm evidence and not on dubious ideology.

The leader of more than a billion Roman Catholics suggested that fears over man-made emissions melting the ice caps and causing a wave of unprecedented disasters were nothing more than scare-mongering.

The German-born Pontiff said that while some concerns may be valid it was vital that the international community based its policies on science rather than the dogma of the environmentalist movement.

His remarks will be made in his annual message for World Peace Day on January 1, but they were released as delegates from all over the world convened on the Indonesian holiday island of Bali for UN climate change talks.

The 80-year-old Pope said the world needed to care for the environment but not to the point where the welfare of animals and plants was given a greater priority than that of mankind.

Humanity today is rightly concerned about the ecological balance of tomorrow," he said in the message entitled "The Human Family, A Community of Peace".

"It is important for assessments in this regard to be carried out prudently, in dialogue with experts and people of wisdom, uninhibited by ideological pressure to draw hasty conclusions, and above all with the aim of reaching agreement on a model of sustainable development capable of ensuring the well-being of all while respecting environmental balances.

"If the protection of the environment involves costs, they should be justly distributed, taking due account of the different levels of development of various countries and the need for solidarity with future generations.

"Prudence does not mean failing to accept responsibilities and postponing decisions; it means being committed to making joint decisions after pondering responsibly the road to be taken."

Efforts to protect the environment should seek "agreement on a model of sustainable development capable of ensuring the well-being of all while respecting environmental balances", the Pope said.

He added that to further the cause of world peace it was sensible for nations to "choose the path of dialogue rather than the path of unilateral decisions" in how to cooperate responsibly on conserving the planet.

The Pope's message is traditionally sent to heads of government and international organisations.

His remarks reveal that while the Pope acknowledges that problems may be associated with unbridled development and climate change, he believes the case against global warming to be over-hyped.

A broad consensus is developing among the world's scientific community over the evils of climate change.

But there is also an intransigent body of scientific opinion which continues to insist that industrial emissions are not to blame for the phenomenon.

Such scientists point out that fluctuations in the earth's temperature are normal and can often be caused by waves of heat generated by the sun. Other critics of environmentalism have compared the movement to a burgeoning industry in its own right.

In the spring, the Vatican hosted a conference on climate change that was welcomed by environmentalists.

But senior cardinals close to the Vatican have since expressed doubts about a movement which has been likened by critics to be just as dogmatic in its assumptions as any religion.

In October, the Australian Cardinal George Pell, the Archbishop of Sydney, caused an outcry when he noted that the atmospheric temperature of Mars had risen by 0.5 degrees celsius.

"The industrial-military complex up on Mars can't be blamed for that," he said in a criticism of Australian scientists who had claimed that carbon emissions would force temperatures on earth to rise by almost five degrees by 2070 unless drastic solutions were enforced.

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  • Scare-mongering? This is an organization that has based its very foundation in scare-mongering. The all powerful vengeful god and mythical son ready to rein death and destruction upon the sinners of the world. Seems the pot is just calling the kettle black, aye? From all the pissy and moany attitudes that have been cropping up by the originators of the scare-mongering ideology and its self proclaimed righteous and religious American supporters, we can see that what goes around, comes around.

    By JADELottery, at 5:39 PM

  • The Pope rocks! All he is saying is to look at all the facts and remember that people are just that, people, and worshipping the environment is overrated.

    By jarasan, at 7:16 PM

  • I too believe that SUVs aren't the main cause, and 6 ice ages prove this. Not to mention that core samples from ice dated thousands of years ago showed higher carbon dioxide levels than today's levels, among other facts.

    On the other hand, JADElottery took the words right out of my mouth. An oranization who used to persecute and kill scientists back in the 16 and 17th century for revealing to the world that the earth was not the center of the universe, among other scientific discoveries. Surely, their behavior is not as radical as in the past, but I wonder how much mental and physical damage is done to little catholic kids around the world who are repeatedly told that they will burn in hell fire for eternity if they don't follow standards set by a single group of self-righteous individuals who think they have a monopoly on what the truth is.

    It always amazes me how the religous community embraces science. To me that's an oxymoron in itself. How can you, in one breath say the universe is only about 6 thousand years old, and in the next breath accept science when factual evidence shows that light took millions and billions of years to get here from distant galaxies, proving the universe couldn't possibly be that young. Go figure. But somehow they feel comfortable with themselves sitting on the fence.

    Unfortunately, they are not the organized religion who supposedly knows for a fact which god, religion, and rules are, in order to enter this place called heaven.

    They all can't be right...right?

    By pacattack05, at 7:41 PM

  • I would never criticize a sitting Pope for religious wars that occurred thousands of years ago. It is irrelevant. Every religion has committed acts that would be completely unacceptable today. And atheists have also done just as vile acts in the past too. Every group has.

    These types of arguments against Catholics were created as a means for other religions (and atheists) to bash the Catholic church, and they have been picked up by others who don't necessarily share the same disdain for Catholics, yet their words do the same damage as those who do.

    Modern popes have done tremendous good for the world, including helping topple one of the world's infamous evil empires, in the words of a very wise former president.

    The pope is continuing to do good by speaking plainly about the false religion of these environmentalists, who bow at the alter of secularism.

    By Todd, at 11:11 PM

  • There's only one way to say this, but I know you'll not understand. I don't believe in God, I know God. Now, that being said, it would be a mistake in thinking that statement has some kind of insane undertone to it. There is no frame of reference that I can even begin to convey to you that will help you understand it. My own personal experience as an young child is what puts this understanding in my perspective.
    What you said has all the ear marks of the "I didn't do it, don't blame me" defense. They didn't name it 'The Dark Ages' for nonthin'. Also, there were may a Pope then that could have made the change, but didn't. A legacy is something you're born with and have to live with all the days of your life. As you would have it, it seems there more than enough of those ready, willing and able to own up to what was supposedly done by the Jesus even though 'they didn't do it'. When you own up to the positive side, you also own up to the negative side as well. I wouldn't exactly start putting on that happy and cheery face and say, "Oh! We're all better now. All that stuff in the past, just forget about it.'
    Looking at that article really makes me laugh at how they are basing some of their supporting argument. It's getting warmer on Mars, so that makes things all better down here? HELLO! If it's getting warmer for whatever reason, don't you think we'd better find why? Maybe there is something else not accounted for that could possibly cause an already bad situation to explode into a global over night catastrophe.
    For you of course, not, your content and happy as long as you don't have to deal with it in you life time. Just keep pushing it off and pushing it off so you don't have to do something. Well, that day may be closer than you think. Just keep doing what you're doing. It will be fun watching the end.
    Having read that, I can see the wheels churning. "How do I respond?" But let's get into the deeper side of this. You would only respond if there was only just the smallest possibility of what is being said is true. First, you would have to at least entertain the idea or all that was said, was just a blithering idiot. Somewhere deep inside of you all, you've had to come to terms with this. Even if it was to rationalize it for truth or fallacy, you had to play out the scenario. In the end, it will not be the debate of the humankind that makes the ultimate decision, it will.

    By JADELottery, at 2:25 AM

  • JADElottery, I totally lost you. You know God? How's he doing?
    Please send some of that stuff my way.....I'll give you an

    It's all in your mind my friend. God only exists in the mind of people who are afraid of their mortality. Do you really believe there is a divine plan for all this mess? Don't you think that a God could have devised a better plan? A mere mortal like me could do a better job. I'd line up every soul I created in front of me and say the following. Ready?..." I made you. This is the real deal, and pay attention cause I ain't gonna repeat this. Either you do things my way or fend for yourself in an eternal srtuggle to find the truth, floating around with every riff raff in the universe. I'm standing in front of you and telling you this for a reason. No mind games, no misunderstanding of any sort, no excuses. This is the final call.....who's with me and who is stupid enough to rebel? Do you really think anyone in their right mind would say at that point...."Yeah...I'll rebel"...DUH!...anyway.....the job is done. No misinterpretation of 17 different religions, no doubt as to what the real deal is.
    When a teacher stands in front of the classroom, he or she dosen't beat around the bush. The teacher dosen't say....This is history class, but today I may or may not teach history. I might teach science or social studies. It'll be up to you to figure out what I will teach. And on top of that, You won't know what I'm teaching will be the truth or jaded. You'll have to make up your mind and be lucky enough to make the right choice. NO>>>>He tells you what the agenda is in straight form, expecting you to read certain chapters in a book, detailing what is expected without doubt of any kind. Then he will test you on what specifics he or she was teaching.

    60 million people died in WWII. A third of the population was wiped out during the plague in the dark ages. 58 thousand soldiers died in the Vietnam war. How many in the civil war? And the beat goes on. He just supposedly sits back and watches all this with a divine plan in action, waiting for the right moment to come down and part the heavens in some glorifying event that will never happen. Wake up folks!

    But YOU Jade...with every other guru and their cohorts out there know God and his plans. I've got a bridge to sell you..real cheap.
    Are you sure Thor of Viking days isn't the saviour? How about Horus the sun God of Egypt? Maybe JUJU in African gospel who lived at the bottom of the sea. Or Mohammad. Perhaps Buddah....

    I know you mean well when you say you know God, but please don't expect me to take you seriously.

    When you see him again, tell him I said he's doing a lousy job.

    By pacattack05, at 3:16 AM

  • As clearly stated at the beginning, 'you would not understand'... and I don't ask that you even believe me... just know that it is... that's all.... know. As I know more than you are willing to handle... how's that movie saying, "You can't handle the truth!".. and more applicable now than at any other time. Once again, I ask that you don't not believe me, know me.

    By JADELottery, at 4:06 AM

  • Typo: it should be... Once again, I ask that you don't believe me, know me.

    By JADELottery, at 4:09 AM

  • With all due respect, I shouldn't have jumped on you like that, but please explain what you think I can't fathom. I'm game, and capable of obscure thought processes. Atleast give it a shot. That's all I ask. I can handle it. If not, I'll say it's out of my leaugue and leave it at that. Is it a deal?

    By pacattack05, at 4:28 AM

  • Pac,
    What you did was a good thing. This one of the steps in understanding.

    By JADELottery, at 4:40 AM

  • It's actually kind of funny, I totally expected that kind of response about knowing God. It's always the same... "Ah, if you see Him next time...." or "What you been smokin'?". It's really a good laugh for me... I was not referring to actually meeting God on a daily basis like we were some kind of buds meeting up at the ball game. If this can help, say this to yourself at least ten time slowly... and think each time you do... you just might have small tiny bit of a glimpse of what I'm saying. "I know God." That's all.... nothing religious... nothing fanatical... just tens time slowly.

    By JADELottery, at 5:01 AM

  • OK...I understand that the usual response was expected, but asking me to repeat a mantra 10 times is not what I expected from you. Obviously you can't describe what special relationship you have with the almighty.

    Nevermind. I really thought you had more depth, but you are not able to explain yourself, without cliches.
    Witthout a lot of weird explanations, can you explain the unique situation you have with god? Please be concise or this conversation is too tiring to continue.

    By pacattack05, at 5:12 AM

  • Hey Pac, glad you're back - safe and well.

    You're obviously God's creation. So full of human intellect and human wisdom. But ahh, the wisdom of man reeks havoc...

    God also created the cat and the dog and the giraffe and the turtle. No human intellect there. Just to keep you company.

    By csfb, at 12:03 PM

  • eh, well, i tried... on to the next subject.

    By JADELottery, at 4:26 PM

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