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Enough already! Here's the official proof you're all so desperately seeking:

http://newsday.today.com/2009/08/04/august-4th-barack-obamas-birthday/

This certified copy of Obama's birth certificate is posted on Digg.com, a very credible source, so there can be NO DOUBT of its validity.

     Jim

Why not stop all this negative energy and focus on something positive?
The fat lady has sung.

Dang Jim, you shoulda told me about this sooner so I wouldn't waste so much of Todd's server space on the subject. Looks legit to me, bet it did to the Dems who vetted him too.

Thanks Wiltay!!! Until that long form birth certificate is produced and passes independent forensic examination I'll continue plugging away at it.   

Fat lady isn't even clopping toward the mike yet for a warm up, sorry to tell you.

@Jim I would expect you Jim, of all people to look beyond the grocery checkout line rag regarding the fake birth certificate to which you refer. It's been refuted by several document experts already. For example, the paper border print is not the one Hawaii was using for that year. Also, it states "African" for race. Africa is a continent with all dif races of ppl born there. Do you really thing Hawaii would make such a stupid mistake as that? Also, where is the baby's foot print? Where is the doctor's signature? Go to YouTube, go to channel "Living on Planet Z", watch the video on BO's fake birth certificate and start to learn what the issue is all about.
@wiltay focus on something positive? You mean like soldiers in the streets, forced vaccinations, FEMA camps, 32 illegal Tzars running the country, the demise of the dollar, mass unemployment, or just what?

Thanks TigerAngel!!! Did you click Jim's link??? Might want to then apologize. LOL

I believe Wiltay has an admirable mindset to hold a positive outlook about everything no matter what comes down the pike at them. I'd probably be more positive were it not for dissolution of the US into the North American Union being the primary motivation in all this. In fact if all this were not happening I'd be digging out inspirational stuff to post, which is really where my heart is.

@ TigerAngel:

You would expect this of me, "of all people?" I'll take that qualifier as a compliment, and as an indication that you're familiar with my work. If that's the case, you also know that I NEVER (well, almost never) post anything without independent verification of my sources. I realize that anybody can post anything on the internet, and that most people will accept what they read there at face value. However, I am in the habit of using verifiable facts to back up my arguments on any issue to which I might offer my opinion. Therefore, before you shoot down my significant and meticulous efforts in locating the evidence I've presented here, I urge you to take the trouble to at least look at what I've found. I'm satisfied that the border will pass the closest scrutiny, and the doctor's signature DOES appear. While I haven't seen the actual certificate or held it in my hands, I'm as certain as I can be that this document is authentic.

     Take a look for yourself, and let me know what you think.

     No apology is necessary.

     Jim

ROFLMAO!!!!!! That document is the real deal ... so much time wasted, had I known earlier ..........

Yes, I went to Digg and saw the fake BC. Then clicked on the other link and nothing happened. Perhaps Jim is just joking very dry.

If the certificate is fake, why didn't the CIA and FBI figure this out when he was Senator? All these things that are happening is prophecy being fulfilled. Just read your scriptures. What's happening can't be changed. We are living in the end time, believe it or not. If you think things are bad now, just wait. God's people are in the process of being delivered through it all. Satan's world is on it's knees and soon to fall. The only thing we can do is pray for deliverance, because His coming is inevitable.   All the signs are almost fulfilled and the preaching of the Gospel is almost complete and the end will come.
Ready or not, a birth certificate will be the least of one's worries. Our focus should be on one thing, being ready, our time could be up tomorrow. My prayers are with you all.

Wiltay, "why didn't the CIA and FBI figure this out when he was Senator?". First of all, that's not their job. The ppl whose job it is either 1)don't want to loose their job, 2) are blackmailed, or 3) are bought off.
Regarding your other points, didn't Jesus say "Who will stand up for me against the evil doers?" Psalms 94:16 KJV
And prophecy is not enevitable, go here, our only escape clause in the book...2Chronicles 7:14 KJV
So why bother to post what's really going on and try to educate ppl? This is why----->>>>Isaiah 5:13 KJV

@ Wiltay:

This may come as a surprise to you, but the FBI, like most of our government, is comprised of very rude lawyers and accountants who couldn't find their butts with both hands. The CIA is largely made up of engineers and statisticians who couldn't find another job (or their own butts, for that matter) and dreamed of being spies while they should have been studying. Why didn't they figure this out? Because they didn't know how! Neither agency is willing to share information or to cooperate with the other, even though they both purport to be on the same team. Kind of like the Democrats and the Republicans, both crave the credit, but neither is willing to accept their share of the blame.

While I agree that the end is fast approaching, this is a political discussion about a political topic. To introduce your religious views here is unfair to those participating and not relevant to the subject. Please don't misunderstand; I respect your opinions and this is not my blog, so I'm not trying to discourage you from expressing your thoughts as you see fit. I just can't respond to them properly with any hope of keeping the tone of the current discussion intact. However, I'd be happy to post my comments on your own blog or, if you'd prefer, you can send me a PM.

@ TigerAngel:

Try Copy & Pasting the URL into the Google search window.

    Jim

Thanks Wiltay!! It was the Democratic National Convention who was supposed to check into his background and apparently either didn't or knew and passed him anyway .... which in my opinion is fraud at the very least. The FBI and CIA don't normally get involved unless a request is filed for them to ... or at least this is how I understand it.

My take is that Obama is convenient for the agenda of establishing a New World Order or One World Government and the powers that be who allegedly control our government didn't care if he was born on Mars so long as their mission goes forward.

Thanks TigerAngel!!! I too believe we have the ability to alter prophesy because prophesy came about as one person's view of what they saw during the time they were looking into the future. Another look might have rendered another conclusion because things are in constant change.

Additionally quantum physicists are on the cusp of proving our mindset determines the outcome of events .... not necessarily the particulars but of the general outcome. Sages have known it for centuries but now it seems science and spirituality will soon be on the same page .... which would have been deemed heresy not long ago.

Thanks Jim!!! ROFLMAO!!! Couldn't find their butts while standing on a mirror, huh? lololol

I believe Clinton drove a stake in their collective hearts so they wouldn't be able to keep up with what he was doing ... and it hasn't been helped since due to the push toward globalism no matter what. Even if they wanted to do something I don't believe they're permitted to due to constraints placed.

Jumping to metaphysics for a minute, have heard this is the last great battle between good (light) and evil (darkforce) for control of the planet. Earth's resonance has been stepped up which allows a speeding up of events, also a magnification of both good and evil. In that step up of resonance our collective consciousness is also increasing and will be expressed according to each person's individual belief system.

Additionally stuff which was below radar is floating up, which is why we're being overwhelmed with so many schemes, corruption being reported. Standing back looking at the big picture it's all a good thing .... even though it seems like a whopping mess right now. I try to see the glass half full and filling, even though wanting to pound my head against a brick wall at times.

I think religion and spirituality are looking at the same big picture, good coming out of bad but living through the ending of bad right now.

Sent TigerAngel a PM with a pic of that document. LOLOL

TigerAngel, I said to you "Did you click Jim's link??? Might want to then apologize. LOL"

After hitting the post button I thought about a several more appropriate ways to have phrased what I said which didn't sound so much like an old crone. Apologize for my abruptness and chastisement while all of us were trying to lighten up a very grave subject.

We all love our country for the freedom and opportunity it represents, and from time to time we all have to feel the overload of changes being forced down our throats. I am certainly no exception.